” Iran is the undisputed source for MOST of the friction between states in the ME … eh?”
You MUST be joking. Israel, the US and the Saudis collectively share THAT mantle.
“They started it” is hardly an acceptable excuse for anything considering the OVERWHELMING majority of PALESTINE was Muslim, Christian with a few jews. You’ve got to be KIDDING me when you make the DELUSIONAL claim that israel encouraged anyone not jewish to stay. There were ZERO reports (let alone British reports) you LIAR that Palestinian Muslims or Christians (the OVERWHELMING majority) to stay. Plan Dalet proves no non jew was encouraged to stay, the verbal accounts from jewish TERRORIST groups such as Palmach, Irgun, haganah, stern gang and Lehi (who offered to co operate with Nazis to get rid of the British) proved they raped, murdered and forcibly removed unarmed Palestinians from their villages and destroyed over 400 Palestinian villages and it was ALL part of the plan to falsely create a jewish majority in the NEW state they were establishing. Now I’ve seen you tell a lot of lies there old man but that tripe is one of the most egregious ones. Erskine Childers asked repeatedly for proof of your lies and never received a thing…. so you can go make that claim elsewhere, it ain’t working here old man. The delusional part of your dementia has set in clearly.
“Where in the Mandate is there any provision for an Arab entity, state, National Home or autonomous area within the borders of the Mandate…”
Been there, done that already. 1st: I agree the text of Palestine Mandate does not mention an Arab state, just as it DOES NOT mention a Jewish state. However, Article 22 of the covenant of LON does clearly designate Palestine as a class “A” Mandate. Class “A” means the territory was recognized as a provisional state at the time the text was written. At that time the population demographic of Palestine territory was over 80 percent Arab. The rest is elementary. 2nd -From Wikipedia: “In Palestine, the Balfour Declaration’s ‘national home for the Jewish people’ was to be established alongside the Palestinian Arabs, who composed the vast majority of the local population.” The meaning of that sentence should be clear even to you.
“A factual answer to the question could prove me wrong and yet you are unable/ unwilling to provide the answer.”
I have provided a factual answer to the question. You always ask this question, and I am always able to answer it.
“All we have is your words, and some of you co-Islamofacist ilk that IN does not really mean IN.”
The word “IN” clearly means inside, or “inside of” something. It certainly does not mean “all of” something. If LON had intended *all of* said territory to be reserved for a Jewish National Home (still not a state -BTW), it would have used those words. But it intentionally didn’t use those words. By doing this, LON spoke clearly.
“It is also well established that Israel sent requests through the UN to Jordan to stay out of the conflict in 1967.”
Several points here. 1st: Israel wanted to capture East Jerusalem. This was the single most significant Zionist objective of the entire war. If Jordan had stayed out of the conflict while Israel dealt with Egypt, NOTHING guaranteed that Israel would not attack Jordan after defeating it’s Arab ally Egypt. Strategically speaking, it would be foolish to allow an ally to be defeated that could potentially assist Jordan if it later came under Israeli attack.
2nd, There would be no conflict at all for Jordan to “stay out of” IF Israel had not crossed armistice lines first and attacked Egypt. Israel attacked first and launched a massive airstrike that destroyed the majority of the Egyptian Air Force on the ground. Since the majority of the Egyptian air force was on the ground, it suggests Egypt was not engaged in an ongoing conflict with Israel and did not expect to be attacked.
“It is also “well established” that Israel told Jordan through the UN that IF Jordan did not attack Israel, Israel would not attack Jordan…”
Pie in the sky. It is well known the motto of Mossad is “by way of deception thou shalt do war.” Thus Israel would tell Jordan whatever words or promises might help Israel accomplish it’s main objective, -which clearly was securing East Jerusalem. ‘Nuff said.
“Under Article 2 of the UN Charter, Jordan had no legal right to attack Israel.”
Under the same article, Israel had no right to unilaterally attack Egypt. You’re a hypocrite, but what else is new?
“Why did Jordan, Egypt et. al. attack Israel in 1948?”
The surrounding Arab countries attacked a JEWISH STATE that the LON never intended to be created in the first place. They did this because they KNEW very well the Zionist agenda for expansion of initial declaration borders (set by UN Res 181) to eventually create greater Israel. After all this time, Zionist Israel has only proven their perceptions to be correct.
If OTOH, the Mandate Authority had established the Jewish National Home as an autonomous Jewish territory inside (meaning to be contained inside) Palestine, these expansionist aspirations would be capped, contained, and stopped. This is why Zionist militias pursued terror attacks to drive out the Brits before said National Home was established. -All for greater Israel. The Jordanians knew this also, and their anticipation of likely future events was governed by Israel’s short (but clearly established) history of attacking the regional representative of the LON, the British Mandate Authority. Again, ’nuff said.
So do you want the rest of the filtered comment? If so, just say yes. I’ll post the remainder as a reply.
You should be aware that you like many rabidly pro israeli delusional posters make broad ignorant assumptions based upon the fact that you cannot accept anything that doesn’t suit your bias. You cannot accept the fact that the WB, East Jerusalem and Gaza is not recognized as part of israel. You then accuse anyone who you disagree with of posting under multiple names and then make insidious assertions against those you disagree with.
Get a grip old man. You should know that the first signs of the mid stages of dementia are paranoia and delusion, your posts are displaying many of those signs.
Yep, and who started the war in, actually 1947 as a “Civil War” and continued it into 1948 and ethnically cleansed not only the Jewish population of the newly renamed “West Bank” but cleansed the Old City of its 100,000 member Jewish population in the “Jewish Quarter” but also cleansed the “Christian Quarter” and the historical “Armenian Quarter” and replaced their populations with Arab Muslims? Perhaps you should be pointing your finger at Jordan rather than at Israel. You point to the period “1948 and 1949”, but you fail to acknowledge that it was the Israeli’s trying to encourage everyone to remain, as confirmed it British Reports and the it was the Arabs promising everyone who got out of their way that there would be a swift victory and they could all return in a few weeks to a Jew Free environment. How convenient for you to forget/ignore facts.
LOL….. I can’t recall the last time I witnessed quite so many fantastic assumptions based on absolutely zero information or cause, though you did make me chuckle while reading about those you imagine “have a set” while you bluster on from the safety of your recliner! 😉
Precisely who am I defending by pointing out that less than a dozen protesters does not make a populace?